ask further whether according to the Qur'an this 
                          spirit and word is created or uncreated. If he replies, 
                          as he is practically bound to reply, that he is created, 
                          he is to be met by the retort that before creating the 
                          word and spirit God must have had neither word (Logos) 
                          nor spirit; i.e. God must be ultimately unreasonable 
                          unintelligent Power. "Then", adds John, "he 
                          will flee from you, having nothing to answer, for people 
                          who hold such an opinion are regarded as heretical among 
                          the Saracens and altogether abominable." 
                        Another question follows which shows the Moslem trying 
                          to raise difficulties about this position which he has 
                          been driven to admit: Are the words (logia) of 
                          God created or uncreated? He is evidently designing 
                          to drive the Christian to the position that if the Logos 
                          be uncreated and therefore divine, the words of God 
                          (in Scripture) must also be in the same position. This 
                          leads the Christian to a long explanation that the words 
                          of Scripture are not logoi but rhemata, 
                          and that the Scripture often uses words not in their 
                          strictly accurate sense but tropologically. Into that 
                          we need not go. But we may note that here we have a 
                          hint — perhaps a little more than a hint, but still 
                          interesting — of how the difficulty about the Logos 
                          was afterwards solved. In later times the Logos doctrine 
                          was applied to Muhammad himself by the mystic thinkers 
                          of Islam,1 but at this early stage that was 
                          impossible. It was applied to the Qur'an. Thus we have 
                          in orthodox Islam the doctrine of the eternal uncreated 
                          Qur'an practically taking the place of  |